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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:11 pm 
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Greg G. wrote:
brkntrxn wrote:
Here is how the calculations work out for them:
1800 lbs / 169 Avg HP (none have actually been this high) = 10.65
Weight Mod Factor -0.3 = 10.35
Non-Production Mod Factor -0.4 = 9.95
Sequential Trans -0.6 = 9.35
235 DOT tires + 0.7 = 10.05


Each of them should be required to complete and submit the paperwork reflecting this. I don't think that's too much to ask since everyone else is required to do so.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:29 am 
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Here is the official wording:

TECHNICAL BULLETIN 5-3-16
NASA NP01 in ST

Appendix A—Technical Bulletins, Approvals, Assessments for Specific Car Models

NP01 (ST3):
The NASA NP01 is only permitted to compete in ST3 as follows:
1) The Minimum Competition Weight must be equal to or greater than 1800 lbs.
2) The vehicle must be 100% compliant with all NP Series rules, including the specified Toyo 235 x 17 RR tires.
3) The vehicle may compete in regional competition without having chassis Dynamometer Dynojet pre-competition testing, but the driver/owner must still complete a pre-competition ST Car Classification Form.
4) Competition in a NASA Championship event requires pre-competition Dyno testing.
5) The vehicle is still subject to post-competition Dyno inspection, and must be compliant with the 10.0:1 limit of "Adjusted Weight/Power Ratio".
Modification Factors include -0.3 for weight, -0.4 for Non-Production, -0.6 for transmission, +0.7 for tires.


NP01 (ST1/ST2):
1) The NASA NP01 may compete in ST1 or ST2, but MUST assess the -2.0 Modification Factor for weight under 1800 lbs, REGARDLESS of the actual
Minimum Competition Weight. The vehicle is not restricted to NP "spec" modifications or tires.
2) If the vehicle has a NASA/Elan sealed engine, the vehicle may compete in regional competition without having chassis Dynamometer Dynojet pre-competition testing, but the driver/owner must still complete a pre-competition ST Car Classification Form.
3) Competition in a NASA Championship event requires pre-competition Dyno testing.
4) The vehicle is still subject to post-competition Dyno inspection, and must be compliant with the limit of "Adjusted Weight/Power Ratio" for its class.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 8:38 am 
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There may be some additional comfort gained by those unfamiliar with the NP01 cars if there is documentation on how the sealing process works and where they can be found on the car for quick inspection in the field.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:32 am 
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kbrew8991 wrote:
There may be some additional comfort gained by those unfamiliar with the NP01 cars if there is documentation on how the sealing process works and where they can be found on the car for quick inspection in the field.

Ken, Dave can answer that for us.

The last bit is that these cars are required to have data logging, and this data can be reviewed by NASA officials at any time.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 11:01 am 
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kbrew8991 wrote:
There may be some additional comfort gained by those unfamiliar with the NP01 cars if there is documentation on how the sealing process works and where they can be found on the car for quick inspection in the field.


There are small tamper proof silver serialized caps over bolt heads applied in several locations. Front cover, oil pan and valve cover are the seal locations.

Our data logging consists of both the AiM data dash as well as the AEM ECU. The ECU also has a tamper proof sticker sealing it and the communication port is locked down with a key that only Elan has possession of.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:18 pm 
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Good information. Thank you.


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