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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:30 pm 
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If you like Mustangs go with the Mustang. It is a fun car. With the right cooling the GT-500 will work. I run an 08 GT-500 that has been Super Snaked and is putting over 650rwhp down and it is a blast. It has the full race GRIGGS rear end and the front has the GRIGGS ST setup. As long as the ambient temp is below 85 degrees I have no problems at all. Above 85, I watch the water temps and sometimes have to run 8 or 9 10ths for a lap and then get back on it. I can keep up with Z06's at VIR and RA. With the full GRIGGS frontend it would be even quicker. The supercharger adds weight to the front end. A moderate horsepower, well suspended GT would be equally as fast due to better weight distribution and overall lower weight. I have a friend that has a full GRIGGS, well sorted GT-500 with a MONSTER aluminum motor that is for sale because he doesn't have time to do track events anymore. It is a seriously fast car. PM me if you are interested. The car is in WPB, FL.

With all of that being said, a used Mustang with the right suspension upgrades, a little motor work and cooling mods that are all readily available can be a very fast and servicable track car. Check out http://www.S197forum.com, the corner carvers section.

The initial investment on the Mustang will be less than the Vette. But you will have to do more to the Mustang to keep up with the Vettes. But, what is your goal? HPDE? TT? or a racing class? That's important to know. If it is anything but TT, go with the Mustang. In TT the Vette's are pretty unbeatable unless you have a car like my friends, but that car has ALOT of $'s and development in it.

But there is alot of satisfaction running with the Vette's in a Mustang.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:48 am 
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BJ,
The aftermarket companies have done a really good job convincing mustang owners they need a bunch of stuff to make their cars handle well. When in fact, the new Mustang doesnt need much. Just a really good set of shocks/struts and related items to tie it all together. CC plates, adjustable upper control for pinion and adjustable PH bar to center the axle. The new Mustang isn't like the SN95 or Fox bodied cars.
My car is running in TTS. Most of the competition is running aero. I am not. My car is now posting times that will get 2nd place with bad parts. Sorted, this car will beat the current first place car. The most expensive part on this car are the shocks and struts. I have about 6k in this car and the AST shocks are the big ticket part.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:48 pm 
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Do you want to time trial or race, or just get a thrill once in a while by driving on track? I have a '12 GT with Brembo package, Ford Racing tune/Power Pack and it feels effortless on the track. I plan to get the Ford Racing adjustable suspension (similar to the street Boss), and maybe do a few other mods. Or I might just lose my mind and sell my soul and trade it in on a '13 Boss. :wink:

I had a 2008 Bullitt before this and it was great even in stock form. I was at the point where my track driving was taking a toll so I traded it (sorry to whomever bought it :twisted: )

The point is, if you have gobs of money to squirt away go for the Boss and mod and run the hell out of it. If you are someone like me who has a modest budget for track days, take a GT (which you can get now with a Track Pack, Recaros, and a little tech for 36K) and you can have some fun with it without running it at redline all day long. It all depends on your amount of disposable income and what you want to do.

GT500- nah for road course. Get the Boss or a GT equipped as mentioned instead.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:34 am 
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Owning a vette is not cheap. They are fun street cars but expensive track cars. There is not one part on my vette that not been touched in some way.

The new Mustang, GT or Boss, is no slouch on the track.

The mods I listed above is all I will do to this car besides maintenance. The only other driver change is learning how to drive it faster and tweak the setup.

I say all this as vette and Mustang fan. Would I buy another vette? No way! Would I buy another new Mustang? In a heart beat!

FWIW David is talking about his C6 Z06 TTU car, which was pretty competitive :)

A TTA C5 is a different animal, much much more stock and seems to be pretty solid (if you take care of it, so like anything else)

I'm a fan of doing this stuff with a car that was more-or-less designed to turn. Solid axles? Blech!

- KB, reformed Fox Mustang owner, who also acknowledges the 05+ chassis is lightyears better than the older stuff

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:39 am 
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Ken,
I am running a Mustang with an asterisk. It's no different than the GT I ran in TTA with the exception of different trailing arms and down brackets. Otherwise, I am out there in a street car with basically race cars in TTS.
You'll be surprised at my times at TWS later this month. Hopefully all the issues are fixed.
Oh, and the Vette is being resurrected! Need to take back some track records. ;-)

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